SixVi6-Camaro Wrote:HP plays a huge part in top speed. Its not all about gearing and aero. Its about matching the gearing and power to the drag of the car moving through the air and distance you have to reach top speed.

example.. 2 identical cars both geared to have a top speed in theory of 250mph with an unlimited distance to run with the same weight and drag coefficient but one has a 50hp engine the other has a 500hp engine.. I got my money on the 500hp car to reach a much higher top speed. The 50hp car will simply run out of power to keep working against the increasing drag from the air.

squirrel Wrote:The 500 hp motor will only get to 250 faster. The 50 hp motor will reach it eventually! A motor can never run out of power if you have ebough speeds or gears to hit that speed.

SixVi6-Camaro Wrote:you are adding varriables to my example.. I said 2 IDENTICAL cars with the same exact gearing. the only difference is the engines. A 50 hp motor won't have the power to get to the same top speed as a 500hp. as speed increases the power required increases exponentially to work against the atmospheric drag.

Lets try another example.. 2 IDENTICAL 1/8 buggies.. 1 speed.. same gearing lets say 18/46 with unlimited space to run but one has a .15 and the other has a .28. the .15 will never be able to reach the same speed as a .28 because the .15 will not have the power to work against the atmospheric drag, parasitic drag form the driveline itself.

SixVi6-Camaro Wrote:you are adding varriables to my example.. I said 2 IDENTICAL cars with the same exact gearing. the only difference is the engines. A 50 hp motor won't have the power to get to the same top speed as a 500hp. as speed increases the power required increases exponentially to work against the atmospheric drag.

Lets try another example.. 2 IDENTICAL 1/8 buggies.. 1 speed.. same gearing lets say 18/46 with unlimited space to run but one has a .15 and the other has a .28. the .15 will never be able to reach the same speed as a .28 because the .15 will not have the power to work against the atmospheric drag, parasitic drag form the driveline itself.

Squirrel Wrote:horsepower has something to do with it yes but not nearly as much as gearing.

Thirdgen89GTA Wrote:John I think there was some sarcasm that both you and I are missing out on in this thread. At least I HOPE so, other wise I wonder about the education system at times.

• It has to has to be as aerodynamic as possible, the more efficent the design the less power it takes to reach a given speed.
  
• It must have the power to overcome the aerodynamic drag at the specified speed.
  
• And finally it must be geared correctly so that at the specified speed the engine is generating the required power output.
  

Eracer76 Wrote:You got me by 1 mph....only because I backed out of it at 174mph due to things flying by much faster then my liking!
The scary thing is.....I was in my modded Crossfire SRT-6 and it was still pulling hard, as if I was still doing 110mph :eek:
Man I love this car!

squirrel Wrote:The 500 hp motor will only get to 250 faster. The 50 hp motor will reach it eventually! A motor can never run out of power if you have ebough speeds or gears to hit that speed.

Thirdgen89GTA Wrote:I'm going to err on the side of caution and say you are being sarcastic. Because i don't believe anyone can be that ignorant.

I don't see the reason to put so much misinformation out there for any reason. Someone who truly doesn't know is going to come along and read it and take it as truth.

Let me restate it. There are 3 main things a car must have to reach a specific speed.

• It has to has to be as aerodynamic as possible, the more efficent the design the less power it takes to reach a given speed.
  
• It must have the power to overcome the aerodynamic drag at the specified speed.
  
• And finally it must be geared correctly so that at the specified speed the engine is generating the required power output.
  

If you don't have at least those 3 requirements met then it simply will not reach a given speed.

Why am I so insistent? Earlier it was stated in this thread that a 50hp engine could power the car to the same top speed as a 500hp car. If you take the new Z06 which is a near 200mph capable car and take its 500hp engine out then drop a 50hp engine into the car then its simply NOT going to reach anywhere near 200mph. It is impossible, 50hp is simply not enough. If you are lucky you'll get it near 70 or 80mph, but I don't believe its going to be capable of even 100.

Procharged5.0 Wrote:Must be HEAVILY modified to even get close to that speed.

Perhaps you were reading kilometers?

FreeRideFrosty Wrote:Eric's cars are SICK. I would not doubt for a second that it is that fast.

Procharged5.0 Wrote:I think it's awesome if it's true! I just meet & talk to too many guys who think their cars can do more than they can...far too many.

I'd love to see pics of Eric's car if he's willing to share!

Quote:Exerting four times the force over a fixed distance produces four times as much work

Ponch Wrote:Vipers are better than Corvettes any day imho lol

FreeRideFrosty Wrote:He had a picture on here a little while back in stock form. I know he had a cobra with some work done to it, then a Dakota R/T with work done (I think it was supercharged, not sure), and an SRT-4 that was putting down 400-500 horsepower or something like that. His cars don't seem to stay stock for very long. You can take him at his word though. If he said it went that fast, it DEFINITELY went that fast.