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R/C diff info set up guide - Obsessive R/C - 12-03-2005
I came across this today and thought it would benefit anyone who isn't 100% sure what set up changes actually effect.
here is diff oil help:
Diff Oil explanation
1st remember and this is all you have to remember is that a diff's job
is to transfer torque to the side of the diff with the least amount of
traction, ie least amount of weight transfered, ie least amount of
traction (This is opposite a torsen by the way).
Center diff fluid:
Say you accelerate, weight transfers towards the rear (your buggy
squats - how much depending on several factors such as rear antisquat
plate, how hard you are on the gas, etc), a center diff with very light
oil will "diff" more towards the front to try to balance the load and
stabilize the buggy. This is great on a slick or maybe a tight track
where you want to feel the front diff pulling your car a little more
and keep you from "spinning out."
Now, say you put in very thick center diff oil in your center diff.
You accelerate, weight transfers towards the rear, a center diff with
very thick oil will "diff" less towards the front but will give you the
most torque at the rear of the buggy, ie more acceleration. This is
great for high bite tracks but on a slick track you may find your rear
end swinging around more.
BUT, straight line acceleration is but one aspect of a center diffs
purpose. Say you are on a track and you approach a woop section. a
car with very light fluid will transfer more torque to the front of the
buggy as soon as the front tires begin to loose contact with the apex
of the woop, hence your rear end feels less power and consequently the
front of your buggy's nose comes down nice and fast ready for the next
woop. your center diff is constantly "diffing" to keep the car
balanced through the woops. Now, if you had very thick oil in the
center, the nose of the buggy would come down a little slower because
it will not diff towards the front so fast. This can cause your buggy
to get out of shape easily because your front tires are not in contact
(think steering) as much with the ground.
Also, center diff oil can even depend on what engine you are running.
if you have an OD MOD, and you go too light on the center oil, you will
find your front tires ballooning to the point of almost flying off the
wheels down the straight away, so you may increase the center oil
weight a bit.
Ok, now for my 2 cents on front diff fluid. T
his will control torque transfer from the left to front tire and vice
versa.
Let's say you have very thick front center fluid and you exit a left
hand 180 on the gas. Your right front tire has the most traction and
hence, if you want the tightest steering, you would want most of the
torque to stay on that outside tire, and hence you would use heavier
front diff fluid. However, if you want more turnin (which happens at
the very beginning of the turn up until the point where your car has
transfered more weight to the outside tire), you could use lighter
front diff fluid.
BUT, the front diff is not just there for turning. Let's say you hit a
bump with only the left front tire of your car. With light front diff
fluid, more torque will transfer to the tire with the least amount of
traction than with thicker oil, ie the right tire starting to come off
the ground due to the chassis lifting, hence the front will stabilize
itself more than a car with thicker front diff fluid.
The rear diff follows the same principle of the front diff.
I know this was long and boring and winded, but i just wanted to get my
feelings out there as an alternative point of view. I am also a rc
photography fan and I love watching and photographing diff action on
buggies. So i am always noticing how much different buggies including
mine are diffing by watching and photographing their tires at different
times.
What i said above is not the be all end all gospel but just my
experience.
Oh yeah, the front diff thing is also a reason you find some buggies
(at least mine) will have more front steering with a front swaybar on
some of the faster corners. The bar keeps the car from transferring
too much weight to the outside tire, thus reducing the front diff
action.
R/C diff info set up guide - dentguy92 - 12-03-2005
wow that's alot of info... good find
R/C diff info set up guide - rocco79 - 12-03-2005
WOW!!!!!!! Very Nice!!!
R/C diff info set up guide - Traxxas_Junkee - 12-04-2005
dang i shouldnt have read all that, im not in school, i shouldnt have a headache
R/C diff info set up guide - Tex - 12-04-2005
Thanks for posts like these they are the type of informative posts we need more often!
R/C diff info set up guide - nitrosmoker - 12-08-2005
I have some pretty good stuff, check it out if need be!!!
R/C diff info set up guide - Obsessive R/C - 01-21-2006
Just brining this back up since everyones racing now....
R/C diff info set up guide - Notochord - 01-21-2006
u should make that a sticky
R/C diff info set up guide - Tex - 01-21-2006
stuck!
R/C diff info set up guide - Sh1nn3r - 01-21-2006
Gabes got the power!
R/C diff info set up guide - Obsessive R/C - 01-22-2006
Thanks bro!
R/C diff info set up guide - Mr. Tune - 01-26-2006
Very nice!
R/C diff info set up guide - Czech-it-Out Graphics - 01-26-2006
Nice dude! you found my secret RC tuning Bible. I take that with me everywhere, its a very good read, and all the stuff in there is dead on!
Not to be out done here is another site that I have found to be very helpful,
http://users.pandora.be/elvo/
R/C diff info set up guide - Obsessive R/C - 01-26-2006
Same one isn't it??
R/C diff info set up guide - Czech-it-Out Graphics - 01-26-2006
ya ur right its is just different URL i only clicked on the first one my bad LOL
u win I suck hahahah :wavey:
R/C diff info set up guide - Opliko - 03-29-2008
A good way to see what everything does is go to http://www.teamxray.com , go to the equivalent type of car you run (1/8 buggy, onroad, etc) and download the manual for it. In the back of the manual it tells you what every adjustment does.