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Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - Smokey - 02-14-2005
Hi all,
I was considering taking some of my refund and getting an engine. So I thought I'd ask for your input. Thanks ahead of time....
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - Tex - 02-14-2005
For good but inexpensive motors go with the Hyper 8 port, SH.28, Mach.26, or XTM .247.....
For the next step you have the Picco.26
more expensive motors, there is a ton....what's your price point?
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - Smokey - 02-14-2005
I had my sights set on something round $200... and in that price range the SH seems like it is a steal. I just called Al's and they can get it as the replacement motor for the XTM 1/7 scale buggy for $189 i believe. I think that the Hyper is a bit more money and the .247 is quite a bit less.
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - Tex - 02-14-2005
hyper 8 port, XTM, and Mach.26 are around $139 new
the picco .26 is around $179 (brutal torque)
the sh.28 go on ebay all day for around $130 (I've been watching some auctions) If you pay $189 for the SH.28, your over paying.
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - firesprink281 - 02-14-2005
amen on the picco. i have 2 trucks and a buggy with that motor. but every once in a while you get one with a bad carb( it sticks)
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - thenewguy821 - 02-14-2005
The best prices I've seen for the Mach .26 is $139 at Leisure. As for the SH .28, like Tex said, it sells all day on E-Bay for $129 to $139. Haven't done much research on the XTM 24.7. I did read somewhere that all 3 of these engines are made by the same manufacturer... If you do go with the Mach .26, you are limited to a 16 tooth clutchbell with the 49 tooth spur. You can fit a 17 or possibly a 18 tooth bell with the 47 tooth spur. If you want a bigger clutchbell, you need an XTM 24.7 backplate. (The stock Mach backplate is oversized)
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - Smokey - 02-15-2005
Thanks guys... Yeah I saw that mach .26 at Al's today. As far as E-bay... we'll I'm just distrustfull i guess and i like to do bussiness the old fashoned way. Also if at all possible I like to support the local hoby shop "if at all possible". But I'll look around e-bay to see what's up. Newguy the SH .28 and XTM 24.7 are the same company and I've heard alot of good things about the 24.7.... Not sure about the Mach. I think Mr. Tune has a Dynamite? Maybe he can chime in... All the Ofna engines seem nice too what size is the 8 port(.21 or .26)? Also what about Wasp .28 any one seen or have one? Thanks guys this is alot better than spend ing 4 wks reading forums......
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - thenewguy821 - 02-15-2005
Dynamite is the "Manufacturer" of the Mach .26. But like the Picco P3, the Wasp .26, and the Ofna outlaw .26 are all made by the same company, just stamped different for each "manufacturer". This is the same with the Orion Diablo .28 and the Wasp .28
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - ATA_Thrash - 02-15-2005
What about a OS RG .21? Easyer to tune than all the engines mentioned.
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - Tex - 02-15-2005
That motor works good in your buggy at the track because it's a tight track. Once you get that thing out on a bigger track where you can utilize more RPM, you'll buy a new motor (or you won't keep up). The RG is a good basher motor but not the power some people want. It tunes like a dream, lasts a long time, and is a sweet motor for the price. Just not as fast as the Mach's or the Picco's (in a Monster Truck). Plus your buggy weights 8lbs and a Savage weights 12lbs. Put a 4lb dumbell on your buggy and see how fast it is
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - ATA_Thrash - 02-15-2005
Yes it is a tad slower than the sportwerks .26 that i had in there but that thing was insane! The rg has such good throttle control..and being smooth always = faster laps. Ive watched many savages that have a hard time turning cause there lifting the front wheels off the ground just trying to get around a turn. As far as the rg not keeping up outside in my buggy...will just have to see about that!
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - Mr. Tune - 02-15-2005
The dynamite mach 26 is a great upgrade engine for a savage. I have it and love it. The only main problem with it, after time, it's hard to start when the engine is ice cold (like sitting in your truck overnight during winter) because the one way slips. It only happens when you first try to start it for the day. After that, no issues with the one way. Even a good enough tune will start that motor with 1- 2 pulls.
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - rocco79 - 02-15-2005
John thats because you run crap fuel
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - Tex - 02-15-2005
I've already witness the RG in buggies against better motors many times before. I'm not saying your motor sucks, I like it (and would buy one, for the right conditions), it just doesn't have the upper RPM of better motors. The numbers are printed and I've seen it from first hand experience. As far as Savages lifting their front wheels it all about suspension setup, tires and throttle control. I've seen savages perform well in turns and some that don't.
Overall the RG would be a better motor than any stock HPI .21 or .25 in my books just not as good as a few others in the same price range. (for a savage)
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - rocco79 - 02-15-2005
The 24.7 , mach 26, sh. 28 are alllllll Made my sh engines. The mach 26 and xtm 24.7 are very very similar. Very reliable, Eassssssssssssy to tune, very inexpensive. The sh 28 is ungodly powerful and probaly the best bang for you buck motor out right now. If i were you id look at the 24.7 "pro" Its about 180 bucks @hobbypeolpe.net so its alittle more than the 24/7 and mach BUT it has to large boost ports cut in its sleeve that make it a very potent motor, it has a very smooth powerband and revs pretty high. It also has all the same charicterstics of the 24/7 and mach (easy tune reliability ....ect) I have the 24.7 the 24.7 "PRO" and the SH 28 and there alll fine choices you cant go wrong!!!. Go to Savage-central.com in the engine guide and you can read hunderds of post on alllllll these motors
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - Tex - 02-15-2005
I think your the guy Smokey needs to talk to because you have so much experience with the Savy and different motors for it. Thanks for chiming in Rocco!
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - Smokey - 02-15-2005
The only thing is I can't find the SH.28 for cheaper than $160 - $180 where are you seeing them for $130. That is why I was going to have Al's order it for me....they get it for $189... and no one else seems to stock it localy.... I've been watching them on e-bay for a while and they end up around $160+ shipping.... Thanks for the explanation Rocco it helps cause I still haven't decided and just might go for the Mach since they have it in stock at AL's. And it seems that SH is doing something right cause I looked through the boards at Savage-central and everyone loves the three engines you mentioned.... The 24.7 PRO seems like an ok deal not too shabby and the RPM range on it is a little higher than the standard. Thanks again for the info.
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - Mr. Tune - 02-15-2005
rocco79 Wrote:John thats because you run crap fuel
Newguy is beginning to have the same symptoms (the slipping one-way on cold engine starts) as well. I'm not the only one.
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - thenewguy821 - 02-16-2005
The one-way on my mach is having issues also, but like Tune said, it is only on the first start of the day. After that, it is clear sailing.
SavageLST picked up his SH .28 on E-bay as a "Buy it now" for I think $135 shipped to his door...
John, did you work on the throttle on the Sav yet? What kind of results?
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - Mr. Tune - 02-16-2005
thenewguy821 Wrote:The one-way on my mach is having issues also, but like Tune said, it is only on the first start of the day. After that, it is clear sailing.
SavageLST picked up his SH .28 on E-bay as a "Buy it now" for I think $135 shipped to his door...
John, did you work on the throttle on the Sav yet? What kind of results?
Due to the weather, I haven't been able to run it at all, so I just messed with the settings on the controller for a little yesterday. The endpoint adjustment for the throttle was set to 100%. But after reading the manual, I discovered that it can go as high as 125%! After all was said and done, without the spring (the one that holds the carb shut incase a servo fails), I get full opening in the carb. With the spring in their, it's a little less that full opening, but nowhere near as bad as before. The spring is just a tad stronger than the servo saver, so the only way for me to get the rest of the carb open is to do the ofna linkage mod.
If it stays dry out today, I'm gonna go outside for a little test & tune session. I'll report back with my findings
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Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - thenewguy821 - 02-16-2005
Don't have a picture of mine, but this is how my linkage was set up...
Only difference, is I put the sliders all the way out on the Servo arm... The farther out the arm, the longer the pull.
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - Smokey - 02-16-2005
What are the part nums for the throtle/brake mod? And I think I'm gonna get the Mach. I'm still gona PM savageLST to see if he can give me the name of the seller to see if those are still available. Thnaks....
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - thenewguy821 - 02-16-2005
Yellow 10721
Pink 10722
Orange 10723
Blue 10724
Purple 10725
The linkage kits include everything you need to make the switch.
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - Smokey - 02-17-2005
Very Cool... Thanks man.... Gonna try that for sure... It's gotta be better than that spring servo saver junk...
Seeking your 2 cents on engine choice for my Savage.... - thenewguy821 - 02-17-2005
BIG improvement over the stock linkage