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1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - Ponch - 05-18-2007
Anyone here that has access to the (whatever) programs the keys for Ford vehicles? We had two sets and were about to get a third, brought the truck into the school's auto shop to get the brakes checked today, and the teacher f'ing lost the $100 key. The keys themself are only about $35, but the programming is another $65. Can anyone do it cheaper? Pretty p!ssed right now.
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - kevinF - 05-18-2007
you brought it in for them to do your brakes??? dont you know how to check and change brakes??
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - 4wheelinrevo - 05-18-2007
its called the PATS system if you have 2 keys you cn program the 3rd and 4th without the dealer
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - blktransam - 05-18-2007
Quote:you brought it in for them to do your brakes??? dont you know how to check and change brakes??
come on its poncho he was eating a twinky while watching
j/k matt
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - Racin' Ranger1 - 05-18-2007
make your teacher pay for it. and you have to go to ford to get it programed.
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - nitrodude - 05-18-2007
Ponch Wrote:Anyone here that has access to the (whatever) programs the keys for Ford vehicles? We had two sets and were about to get a third, brought the truck into the school's auto shop to get the brakes checked today, and the teacher fucking lost the $100 key. The keys themself are only about $35, but the programming is another $65. Can anyone do it cheaper? Pretty p!ssed right now.
Just make the teacher pay for it, i mean she lost it she should pay. You didnt lose it there for you shouldnt have to pay for it.
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - Ponch - 05-18-2007
kevinF Wrote:you brought it in for them to do your brakes??? dont you know how to check and change brakes??
I don't have a LATHE at home dumbass!
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - Traxxas_Junkee - 05-18-2007
If only it was called a lathe.
You can take them to the yard and have them cut for like $10 a disk......
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - Ponch - 05-18-2007
You know what I mean. Couldn't remember what it was called. I can do it for free at school though, even though it didn't end up needing it.
Back on topic please.
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - Traxxas_Junkee - 05-18-2007
Did the teacher admit to losing it? If he/she did and they won't pay for it go to a higher administration.
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - Ponch - 05-18-2007
Traxxas_Junkee Wrote:Did the teacher admit to losing it? If he/she did and they won't pay for it go to a higher administration.
Yes. I'm giving him until monday.
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - mikeh - 05-18-2007
You don't program the key. You program the car to recognize the key. Its something you can do yourself, but you need the instructions. If the proceedure is not in the owners manual, you may be able to find it online.
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - MX_KEVIN - 05-18-2007
Call me at work tomorrow and Ill see If I can fax you the info on how it done...
630-690-4400 8-2pm
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - Ponch - 05-18-2007
I just found out how online, but you need TWO working keys, and now we only have one.
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - MX_KEVIN - 05-18-2007
Ponch Wrote:I just found out how online, but you need TWO working keys, and now we only have one.What year make and model. Im able to access my info from here also...Awsome
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - 4wheelinrevo - 05-19-2007
Ponch Wrote:I just found out how online, but you need TWO working keys, and now we only have one.
i said the same thing above, the PATS system will allow up to 4 keys to be programed and you need 2 to do it, otherwise you HAVE to go to the dealer to do it.
what yo u didnt believe me?
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - 4wheelinrevo - 05-19-2007
you wouldnt happen to have an aftermarket alarm on it would you?
the reason i ask is becasue inorder for the alarm to work on a ford with the PATS system they have to either put a key in a transponder box on the sterring column or they have to have a "virtual" key programed, so if you have an alarm on it then you technically do have 2 keys even if you only have 1 physical key, but the system thinks it sees 2
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - Ponch - 05-19-2007
MX_KEVIN Wrote:What year make and model. Im able to access my info from here also...Awsome
2001 Ford Expedition (non-eddie bauer)
No alarm system
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - Michowski - 05-19-2007
what you do is gets quotes to get the complete job done, give the bill to your teacher and have him pay for it. If it wont bring it to the principal and if he doesnt you can call the district people on him. No matter what the school, teacher, or district should pay for it. Get all the quotes first tho then bring it to them
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - MX_KEVIN - 05-19-2007
This procedure is used when a customer needs keys programmed into the system and does not have two programmed ignition keys available. This procedure is also useful when programmed ignition key(s) have been lost or the ignition switch assembly has been replaced, and it is desired to erase key(s) from the Passive Anti-Theft System (PATS) memory.
This procedure will erase all programmed ignition keys from the vehicle memory and the vehicle will not start until two keys have been reprogrammed to the vehicle.
Two PATS encoded keys with the correct mechanical cut must be available to perform this procedure. One or both of them may be the customer's original keys.
If additional keys are to be programmed, refer to Key Programming-Program a Key Using Two Programmed Keys. If the remaining keys are with the customer and are not available with the vehicle, then instruct the customer to refer to the Owners Guide under the "Programming Spare [SecuriLock ® (North America), Safeguard ® (U.K.) or PATS for all other markets] Keys Procedure" for instructions on programming the remaining keys. See: Program A Key Using Two Programmed Keys
Turn the ignition switch from OFF to RUN.
Enter scan tool. Follow the SECURITY ACCESS PROCEDURE to obtain security access.
From scan tool menu, select IGNITION KEY CODE ERASE.
Turn the ignition switch to OFF and disconnect scan tool. NOTE: Do NOT select any additional commands from this menu.
Insert the first encoded key into the ignition lock cylinder and turn the switch to RUN for three seconds .
Insert the second encoded key into the ignition lock cylinder and turn the switch to RUN for three seconds .
The vehicle should now start with both ignition keys.
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - MX_KEVIN - 05-19-2007
This procedure only works if two or more programmed ignition keys are available and it is desired to program additional key(s). If two keys are not available, follow the procedure in Key Programming-Erase All Key Codes and Program Two Keys. See: Erase All Key Codes and Program Two Keys
PID SPARE__KY must be enabled for this procedure to operate. If this Parameter Identification (PID) Index is not enabled, follow the security access procedure and select Spare Key Programming Switch: Enabled.
If the programming procedure is successful, the new key(s) will start the vehicle and the THEFT INDICATOR will illuminate for approximately three seconds .
If the programming procedure is not successful, the new key(s) will not start the vehicle and the THEFT INDICATOR will flash. If the programming procedure was not successful, repeat the key programming procedure from Step 1. If the failure repeats, check Circuit 729 (RD/WH) (hot at all times) in instrument cluster for proper battery voltage. Repair the circuit if voltage is not present. For additional information, refer to Diagnosis and Testing to review Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) and perform pinpoint tests as required.
A maximum of eight ignition keys can be programmed to a Passive Anti-theft System (PATS) equipped vehicle. Use PID NUMKEYS to determine how many keys are programmed to the vehicle.
If the steps are not performed, the programming procedure will end.
Ignition keys must have correct mechanical key cut for the vehicle and must be a PATS encoded key.
Insert the first programmed ignition key into the ignition lock cylinder and turn the ignition switch from OFF to RUN (maintain the ignition switch in RUN for one second ).
Turn the ignition switch to OFF and remove the first key from the ignition lock cylinder.
Within five seconds of turning the ignition switch to OFF, insert the second programmed ignition key into the ignition lock cylinder and turn the ignition switch from OFF to RUN (maintain the ignition switch in RUN for one second ).
Turn the ignition switch to OFF and remove the second key from the ignition lock cylinder.
Within 10 seconds of turning the ignition lock cylinder to OFF, insert the unprogrammed ignition key (new key) into the ignition lock cylinder and turn the ignition switch from OFF to RUN (maintain the ignition switch in RUN for 1 second ).
If it is desired to program additional key(s), repeat the key programming procedure from the beginning.
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - MX_KEVIN - 05-19-2007
The spare key programming switch is a scan tool programmable switch that provides the capability to enable/disable the spare key programming procedure. This procedure is in the Owners Guide spare key programming procedure or Key Programming-Program a Key Using Two Programmed Keys. This programmable switch is provided as a convenience for rental company fleets or other fleet purchasers who may not want the spare key programming procedure available to the vehicle driver.
The spare key programming switch state can be viewed by instrument cluster PID SPARE__KY.
Insert a programmed ignition key into the ignition lock cylinder and turn the ignition switch to RUN.
Enter scan tool. Follow the SECURITY ACCESS PROCEDURE.
From scan tool menu, select SPARE KEY PROGRAMMING SWITCH selection to the desired setting: Spare key programming procedure is accessible. Spare key programming procedure is not accessible. NOTE: The default setting on delivery of all new vehicles is .
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - MX_KEVIN - 05-19-2007
This procedure is used when a customer needs to have an additional key programmed into the vehicle without erasing stored key codes, but does not have two programmed keys available. This procedure is also useful when attempting to determine if an ignition key is defective, as a new key can be installed without erasing keys or without having two programmed keys available.
Before programming, the new key must have the correct mechanical cut for the ignition lock.
If eight keys are already programmed, this procedure will not allow any further ignition keys to be programmed without erasing all stored key codes first. The number of keys programmed into the system can be determined using the PID NUMKEYS.
Turn the ignition switch from the OFF position to the RUN position using the new, unprogrammed ignition key.
Enter scan tool using the Ford Service Function (FSF) card and enter the appropriate instrument cluster. Follow Security Access to obtain security access.
From the scan tool menu Select: IGNITION KEY CODE PROGRAM.
Turn the ignition switch to the OFF position and disconnect scan tool.
Attempt to start the engine with the new ignition key. The vehicle engine should start and run normally.
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - MX_KEVIN - 05-19-2007
I didnt have time to read all that but from a brief look, it looks like 4wheelenrevo is right and u need 2 keys. Oh well...
1:1 Car (Ford) Help Needed. - Eddie F - 05-20-2007
You will need 2 keys already programmed, some early expeditions you were able to use just one key but I believe that was 1997-1998 model years. Try to find the lost key, or do not lose the key you have. I not longer work for Ford and do not have access to the scanners, otherwise I would borrow one. Some locksmiths might have a scanner to program new keys, give that a try and it might be cheaper.