picture this scenario

[grim digger]

i was on savage central and there are 2 of it's members having aissue over a rs4 and a money order

now the person thats buying sent money as promised

the seller washed the money order and wont send anything till a replacement is sent

what do you think about that?

you guys can see some of the rebuts on this under "nitrofreak is bad seller" on svage central,

i am just annoyed by the fact that more and more scamming is going on

[Michowski]

i think there stupid and its non of our business

[Mr. Tune]

One good thing about this board...
People don't try to screw each other in the for sale/wanted section.

[DAVEC-NITRO-RS4]

Since GrimDigger asked "what do you think", I'll just add,
I agree with Mr. Tune, they are stupid, and it really is NOOB,
but at the same time it's a very good example of what can go wrong in an online deal. There are good lessons in that exchange. Buyer beware! And, keep copies of everything you mail to someone if paying by check or MO. Paypal is safer but too many sellers want to avoid the fees Paypal charges. To me it read like NitroFreak was being a bit evasive and uncooperative. It did make for some funny reading, though!

[John78]

I've never bought anything person to person over the internet before, but can't you cancel a money order? If you can, the buyer should cancel the money order and have a new one issued and any new charges that are occur from this process should be taken off the cost of the RS4. If the seller mistakenly washed the money order its their own fault and they should pay for it.

[thenewguy821]

but can't you cancel a money order?

He has to check with the issuing bank, or Currency Exchange. Most will allow him to cancel it after a set amount of time, or if both copies are present. He can also find out from the place he got the Money order if it has been cashed.

[grim digger]

well this just adds to my own selling/trading probs,i thought i finally sold thjose am radios i had,but after 4 days one of the buyers never got back to me,so i emailed him 3 times in 3 days ,nothing so i cancled the ad instead of playing the negative feed back game,the very next day he emailed me that he sent payment, i asked when and to who,his answer via mail postal money ,now if you do not respond to the emails how i am i suppose to know what youir intentions are? after 8 days total i get that email,to this day which is 12 th day i yet to see a money order,now aint this some crap?and that is on rcu

[rocco79]

That sucks man!!! Im new to sellin stuff on ebay. and even with all the checks and balances worked into that system i still get leary

[grim digger]

it is a messed up way to do business,since there is no face to the person your dealing with ,when it comes to these dealings,i would rather meet in person then to go thru all that ,
GD

[Tex]

I was buying shocks from this dude on UE yesterday and he was real quick with the PM's. I payed yesterday and now he won't return my PM's. It's only been a day and I'm leary. I bet he's just busy and hasn't checked his mail. After 3 days I'll really start to worry.

[rocco79]

Isnt that the worst feeling!!!!! I hope hes just busy like ya said tex

[DAVEC-NITRO-RS4]

I have found eBay to be very good and safe. If you use their protocols for payment you always have payment protection against fraud. It is when you fo outside of eBay and start buying person to person that you open yourself up to con-artist (and I'm not saying that's what anyone is) scams and no-pay/no-ships.
Ebay considers 10 days a normal waiting period for deals to settle, because people do have jobs and travel, etc. and cannot check email everyday. So when deals go bad on eBay you are cooling it for at least ten days before you can try to cancel the transaction. Otherwise leary buyers would cause them too much admin headaches when deals are really just moving slowly.

[Tex]

I got a PM from the dude i was waiting on, it'll work out fine I'm sure.

[grim digger]

thats good gabe,on my end i got a email stating that he forgot to mail it ,and that he was changing his mind
i personally think he never was going to send it but,in a way i new just one of things,but it's all good someone will want a radio in the end
GD