Cubs or Sox

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ok dan Cards astros reds then u got us and the pirates. White Sox Detroit then who the twins and cleveland, then u got the low A Royals who they play 17 times -- which should be 17 wins hands down

[squirrel]

Oh no you mean the sox aren't in first place anymore?!?, have you checked to see where the Cubs are? and I can see being loyal to your team, but why make up all of these stupid excuses as to why the lose all the time, why can't you just accept that they aren't the best team in baseball and will lose 75% of their games.

You sound more and more like a bandwagon fan everytime you post. I am not a cubs fan because the WIN or don't win!! I am a cubs fan because I like the cubs! And if you can find one excuse that I have posted in this or any other thread I will say I have made excuses. BUT I have never made any beside Dusty and managment!!! which are both not excuses but very needed to turn the ball club around! As for excepting that they will lose, I HAVE!!!

[Michowski]

http://www.firedustybaker.com/nucleus/

[FreeRideFrosty]

To the cub fans.... yes, the sox are not in first. It happens. However, have you checked where the cubs are?? The sox are sitting in a good position right now. They will keepl playing fine and I honestly would be surprised if Detroit were able to keep this up. I just don't see how you can go around rooting that the sox ae a couple games out when the cubs aren't anywhere near just "a couple" games under .500 even. And Mike.... comapring teams in divisions is useless. There are good teams, and then there are bad teams. The bad teams complain about the good teams in the division. That is why the cubs always have to complain and the sox are not.....

[rocco79]

What did that last post have to do with anything???

Thanks for letting us know the soxs arent in 1st and that the cubs are below .500..

BTW... Why are the soxs the only "superman" team in the whole league???? What i mean is , Why CANT detroit keep up there winning ways? Because there not the soxs i guess

That must be goooooood kool-aid that they have on that bandwagon!

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touche rocco

[thenewguy821]

I'll ask again... Since as long as I can remember, people claim that the Cubs are in the "Toughest division in Baseball". How many times has that division won the World Series?

[rocco79]

Year
World Series Champ
Won
Lost
Opponent

2005
Chicago White Sox
4
0
Houston Astros

2004
Boston Red Sox
4
0
Saint Louis Cardinals

2003
Florida Marlins
4
2
New York Yankees

2002
Anaheim Angels
4
3
San Francisco Giants

2001
Arizona Diamondbacks
4
3
New York Yankees

2000
New York Yankees
4
1
New York Mets

1999
New York Yankees
4
0
Atlanta Braves

1998
New York Yankees
4
0
San Diego Padres

1997
Florida Marlins
4
3
Cleveland Indians

1996
New York Yankees
4
2
Atlanta Braves

1995
Atlanta Braves
4
1
Cleveland Indians

1994
**No World Series
no ws
no ws
**Player’s Strike

1993
Toronto Blue Jays
4
2
Philadelphia Phillies

1992
Toronto Blue Jays
4
2
Atlanta Braves

1991
Minnesota Twins
4
3
Atlanta Braves

1990
Cincinnati Reds
4
0
Oakland Athletics

1989
Oakland Athletics
4
0
San Francisco Giants

1988
Los Angeles Dodgers
4
1
Oakland Athletics

1987
Minnesota Twins
4
3
St. Louis Cardinals

1986
New York Mets
4
3
Boston Red Sox

1985
Kansas City Royals
4
3
St. Louis Cardinals

1984
Detroit Tigers
4
1
San Diego Padres

1983
Baltimore Orioles
4
1
Philadelphia Phillies

1982
St. Louis Cardinals
4
3
Milwaukee Brewers

1981
Los Angeles Dodgers
4
2
New York Yankees

1980
Philadelphia Phillies
4
2
Kansas City Royals

1979
Pittsburgh Pirates
4
3
Baltimore Orioles

1978
New York Yankees
4
2
Los Angeles Dodgers

1977
New York Yankees
4
2
Los Angeles Dodgers

1976
Cincinnati Reds
4
0
New York Yankees

1975
Cincinnati Reds
4
3
Boston Red Sox

1974
Oakland Athletics
4
1
Los Angeles Dodgers

1973
Oakland Athletics
4
3
New York Mets

1972
Oakland Athletics
4
3
Cincinnati Reds

1971
Pittsburgh Pirates
4
3
Baltimore Orioles

1970
Baltimore Orioles
4
1
Cincinnati Reds

1969
New York Mets
4
1
Baltimore Orioles

1968
Detroit Tigers
4
3
St. Louis Cardinals

1967
St. Louis Cardinals
4
3
Boston Red Sox

1966
Baltimore Orioles
4
0
Los Angeles Dodgers

1965
Los Angeles Dodgers
4
3
Minnesota Twins

1964
St. Louis Cardinals
4
3
New York Yankees

1963
Los Angeles Dodgers
4
0
New York Yankees

1962
New York Yankees
4
3
San Francisco Giants

1961
New York Yankees
4
1
Cincinnati Reds

1960
Pittsburgh Pirates
4
3
New York Yankees

1959
Los Angeles Dodgers
4
2
Chicago White Sox

1958
New York Yankees
4
3
Milwaukee Braves^^

1957
Milwaukee Braves^^
4
3
New York Yankees

1956
New York Yankees
4
3
Brooklyn Dodgers^*

1955
Brooklyn Dodgers^*
4
3
New York Yankees

1954
New York Giants**
4
0
Cleveland Indians

1953
New York Yankees
4
2
Brooklyn Dodgers^*

1952
New York Yankees
4
3
Brooklyn Dodgers^*

1951
New York Yankees
4
2
New York Giants**

1950
New York Yankees
4
0
Philadelphia Phillies

1949
New York Yankees
4
1
Brooklyn Dodgers^*

1948
Cleveland Indians
4
2
Boston Braves^^

1947
New York Yankees
4
3
Brooklyn Dodgers^*

1946
St. Louis Cardinals
4
3
Boston Red Sox

1945
Detroit Tigers
4
3
Chicago Cubs

1944
St. Louis Cardinals
4
2
St. Louis Browns***

1943
New York Yankees
4
1
St. Louis Cardinals

1942
St. Louis Cardinals
4
1
New York Yankees

1941
New York Yankees
4
1
Brooklyn Dodgers^*

1940
Cincinnati Reds
4
3
Detroit Tigers

1939
New York Yankees
4
0
Cincinnati Reds

1938
New York Yankees
4
0
Chicago Cubs

1937
New York Yankees
4
1
New York Giants**

1936
New York Yankees
4
2
New York Giants**

1935
Detroit Tigers
4
2
Chicago Cubs

1934
St. Louis Cardinals
4
3
Detroit Tigers

1933
New York Giants**
4
1
Washington Nationals*^

1932
New York Yankees
4
0
Chicago Cubs

1931
St. Louis Cardinals
4
3
Philadelphia Athletics*

1930
Philadelphia Athletics*
4
2
St. Louis Cardinals

1929
Philadelphia Athletics*
4
1
Chicago Cubs

1928
New York Yankees
4
0
St. Louis Cardinals

1927
New York Yankees
4
0
Pittsburgh Pirates

1926
St. Louis Cardinals
4
3
New York Yankees

1925
Pittsburgh Pirates
4
3
Washington Nationals*^

1924
Washington Nationals*^
4
3
New York Giants**

1923
New York Yankees
4
2
New York Giants**

1922
New York Giants**
4
0
New York Yankees

1921
New York Giants**
5
3
New York Yankees

1920
Cleveland Indians
5
2
Brooklyn Robins^*

1919
Cincinnati Reds
5
3
Chicago White Sox

1918
Boston Red Sox
4
2
Chicago Cubs

1917
Chicago White Sox
4
2
New York Giants**

1916
Boston Red Sox
4
1
Brooklyn Robins^*

1915
Boston Red Sox
4
1
Philadelphia Phillies

1914
Boston Braves^^
4
0
Philadelphia Athletics*

1913
Philadelphia Athletics*
4
1
New York Giants**

1912
Boston Red Sox
4
3
New York Giants**

1911
Philadelphia Athletics*
4
2
New York Giants**

1910
Philadelphia Athletics*
4
1
Chicago Cubs

1909
Pittsburgh Pirates
4
3
Detroit Tigers

1908
Chicago Cubs
4
1
Detroit Tigers

1907
Chicago Cubs
4
0
Detroit Tigers

1906
Chicago White Sox
4
2
Chicago Cubs

1905
New York Giants**
4
1
Philadelphia Athletics*

1904
**note: John McGraw…
no ws
no ws
**refused to play AL

1903
Boston Pilgrims^
5
3
Pittsburgh Pirates

[rocco79]

Looks like in the 70's and 80's it WAS a VERY tough division smartass! LOL!!!!!!

12 times since 1970 there has been a team from the cubs division... So ruffly 30% of the time someone from the central is in the WS

[thenewguy821]

Ok, Good read, but how many are in the Cubs Division?

By the "Popular comment", the majority of them should be in the Cubs division in order to PROVE that it is the "Toughest Division in Baseball".

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central division is the cubs division!

[thenewguy821]

central division is the cubs division!

I know that... lol But that list goes back long enough, that there wasn't 3 divisions in each league...

In all seriousness, I was curious. I have heard the comment for as long as I can remember, but never paid attention to who won, from what division, etc. If the Sox didn't make it, I didn't care who won. In fact, a few years ago, when the Sox got swept in the first round, I couldn't tell you who won the WS that year (Without looking at Roc's post)

[squirrel]

To the cub fans.... yes, the sox are not in first. It happens. However, have you checked where the cubs are?? The sox are sitting in a good position right now. They will keepl playing fine and I honestly would be surprised if Detroit were able to keep this up. I just don't see how you can go around rooting that the sox ae a couple games out when the cubs aren't anywhere near just "a couple" games under .500 even. And Mike.... comapring teams in divisions is useless. There are good teams, and then there are bad teams. The bad teams complain about the good teams in the division. That is why the cubs always have to complain and the sox are not.....

WE KNOW THE CUBS ARE LOSING!!!!!! What don't you understand about that!

[dirtguy90]

i think that both AL and NL central are the two toughest divisions
AL east would be hard, but the only good teams are yankkes and red sox, and whoever doesn't make it gets the wild card...EVERY YEAR
NL usually has the team w/ the highest record, but then everyone else is waaaay back...and the cubs would still have a great shot at wildcard
and AL central usually has nearly the highest record and everyone else (ecept royals) are not too far behind


and im getting really confused...is dusty getting fired or not? i've heard that he's done, i've heard that he might be done, and i've also heard that there's no way he's getting fire
so which is it?

and nebody know why ozzie was 3rd base coach on saturday?

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he didnt wanna get beat up by the opposing teams fans on the first baseline....lol

[squirrel]

he didnt wanna get beat up by the opposing teams fans on the first baseline....lol

LLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

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[PoPRC]

You guys honestly don't know why the National Central Div is called the toughest? Because its the only six team division. So you have one or in one case Two more teams to contend with for division winning rights over the lesser 5 and 4 team divs AL and NL. thats why ists tough not because of the teams in it. But because you have more divisional games per team. Actually thats the wrong way to descibe it. Its because each team can hurt another in the div as well as intra conference can interfere with div standings.

[thenewguy821]

nebody know why ozzie was 3rd base coach on saturday?

Cora was handed a 2 or 3 game suspension for the "Fight"


I will say SORRY for this now, but I can't resist..... How can ANY Cubs fan even think about calling the Sox a "Minor League" team after that play at 3rd base today? I almost fell off my chair when I saw the ball bounce off his head.

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i bet it woulda hit u in the face too

[thenewguy821]

First off, I never Attacked YOU. Second, you have no idea if I can play baseball or not. Relax, get back to insulting the Sox, not individual members here. This thread was made so we could all talk $#!T about "The other team", not to take stabs at each other. If it offends YOU that much that I make a comment about a BAD play the Cubs made, you really need to rethink what matters in life.

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damn bro chill out lol i forgot the smiley face

[thenewguy821]

It's all good... I saw the way things got out of hand with you and Dan over something stupid, and I wanted to try to avoid that. Overall, it's just a game, and it doesn't affect any of us who wins or loses. It's just more fun (for me at least) to watch the Sox win and Cubs lose....

Gotta make sure there are some Cameras ready when the Sox take 2 more games from the Cubs.

[squirrel]

Oh no we gotta win the series at home!!! Hey as a cubs fan I'm allowed a lot of wishful thinking. And I may be wrong here but didn't we sweep last year on the northside series? Like I said I could be wrong.

[thenewguy821]

No, Last year, it was 2-1 each series. 3-3 overall.